2006 October Members Meeting Agenda

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PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THIS WIKI PAGE WITHOUT COORDINATION WITH JON FERRAIOLO. It should be preserved as is for historical record of the agenda for the meeting.

This wiki page contains the agenda for the 2006 October Members Meeting. Minutes, along with links to some of the presentations that were given, can be found at 2006 October Members Meeting Minutes.


Contents

Location

The meeting will be hosted by Sun Microsystems on October 5-6 at their Santa Clara campus, 4150 Network Cir, Santa Clara, CA 95054, (650) 960-1300. The campus is bounded by Lafayette St, Agnew Rd, and Montague Expressway.


Dial-in

We plan to have a polycom in the room and have the meeting dial into the following number:

  • 1-888-227-9220, Passcode: 871757

There are no guarantees about the quality of the conference call.


Thursday Oct 5

  • 9am-10:30a
    • Welcome and Opening Remarks ("We have come a long way baby!")
      • David Boloker (IBM) and Scott Dietzen (Zimbra), two founders of the OpenAjax initiative
    • Announcement of New Steering Committee
      • The first (non-interim) Steering Committee will be announced by the Interim Steering Committee: David Boloker (IBM), Mike Milinkovich (Eclipse), John Janetos (Laszlo), John Lilly (Mozilla), Mike Pinette (Zend), Scott Dietzen (Zimbra)
    • Accomplishments since May
      • Alliance operations - Jon Ferraiolo (IBM)
      • Marketing committee - Jon Ferraiolo (IBM) [unless someone else volunteers]
      • Technical committees - Coach Wei (Nexaweb)


  • 11:00-12:30 - Ajax Customers Panel
    • Moderator: Erwan Paccard (ILOG)
    • Presenters/panelists (likely to change all the way up to meeting time):
      • Dave Stanek (American Greetings)
      • (Invited Guest) Jackson Thompson, Director of IT for Topaz Hotel Services
      • (Maybe we will have to have vendors report on what they are hearing from customers)
    • Panel participants are developers who are attempting to use Ajax technologies (i.e., not Ajax technology providers). What challenges they face and what they need from OpenAjax Alliance. It is likely that some of the people on the panel will be (non-member) invited guests.
    • Short presentations, followed by general Q&A


  • 12:30-1:30 - Lunch


  • 1:30-3:30 - Ajax Run-time Panel
    • Moderator: Shel Finkelstein (SAP)
    • Presenters/panelists (likely to change all the way up to meeting time):
      • Someone from GI team (TIBCO)
      • Someone from Spry team (Adobe - at risk - Adobe may not be able to attend)
      • Maybe Chris Matthews (ZOHO) on component architectures
      • Someone from XAP project (Nexaweb)
      • Anil Sharma (Vertex Logic)
      • Maybe Andre Charland (Nitobi) on component developer issues
    • Panel participants are Ajax technology providers that are delivering pre-packaged client-side JavaScript libraries, JavaScript components or web browsers. What challenges they face and what they need from OpenAjax Alliance.
    • Short presentations, followed by general Q&A


  • 4:00-6:00 - Ajax Developer And Server-Side Tools Panel
    • Moderator: Christophe Jolif (ILOG)
    • Presenters/panelists (likely to change all the way up to meeting time):
      • Christophe can talk about ILOG's use of Ajax
      • Chris Shalk will present on Oracle's vision about Ajax and OpenAjax
      • Jochen Krausse will present Innoopract's vision about Ajax and OpenAjax
    • Panel participants represent Ajax technology providers who deliver complete products for developers, where the product isn't just a run-time library. Examples include server components, server-side transcoders/compilers and IDEs. What challenges they face and what they need from OpenAjax Alliance.
    • Short presentations, followed by general Q&A

Friday Oct 6

  • 9am-10:30a - Open discussion about operational issues
    • Moderator: Jon Ferraiolo (IBM)
    • Topics should be proposed before the meeting begins. Here are some candidate topics:
      • How many all-hands meetings per year? 1? 2? Always North America, or take turns geographically?
      • When/where should next meeting be?
      • Should Alliance have a confidentiality policy regarding committee discussions, wiki, and mail lists?
      • Should we allow individuals to join (vs companies)? If so, how should this work?
      • Voting process - any changes for next year?
      • Switching to yahoogroups for mailing lists
      • Who do we need to recruit and how do we get them to join? (For example, more open source runtime libraries? More open source Java projects?)


  • 11:00-12:30 - Breakouts - Marketing Committee and Technical Committtees
    • Introductions so everyone can associate faces with names
    • People make short statements about recommendations for future work within the committee
    • Conduct a regular committee meeting, addressing current topics
    • Marketing Committee topics:
      • Driving the industry towards interoperability: OpenAjax "compliance" vs "conformance" vs ???
      • Roadmap and priorities, particularly white paper(s)
      • What to do about "compiled ajax" category
      • Adding TIBCO/GI to list of open source projects in White Paper
      • How to integrate the FAQ?
      • Logo usage rules like W3C? http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/logo-usage-20000308.html
        • Some members want to put OpenAjax logo on their Web site. Is this OK? Which logo?
    • Technical Committee topics:
      • Roadmap for next few months
      • Keep Interop and Markup as separate committees or join together?
      • What happens in committee meetings versus what happens in open source project?
      • Assignments and commitment dates for Hub activities, such as integration with toolkits and products
      • Where are Hub docs developed? openajax.org public web site? sourceforge public web site? member wiki? within sourceforge project trunk/docs?


  • Lunch 12:30-1:30


  • 1:30-3:30 - Mobile Ajax - what should we do about it
    • Moderator: Jon Ferraiolo (IBM)
    • Presenters/panelists:
      • Jon Ferraiolo (IBM) - Introduction about interest expressed by several companies and importance of mobile devices going forward and comments collected from companies unable to attend this meeting
      • Alex Russell (Dojo)
      • Someone to talk about JSR290 (Sun)
      • Christian Sejersen (Openwave)
      • Håkon Wium Lie (Opera)
    • Short presentation of position papers by selected members, followed by general discussion


  • 4:00-6:00 Futures discussion and wrapup
    • Moderator: Jon Ferraiolo (IBM)
    • Presenters/panelists:
      • Alex Russell (Dojo)
    • Short presentation of position papers by selected members, followed by general discussion
      • OpenAjax conformance - how to define, how to motivate industry, do we need test suites or enforcement mechanisms?
      • Ajax security?
      • Requirements for portals, wikis, and other mashup scenarios?
      • IDE issues?
      • Client-server communications - should Hub coordinate communication requests?
      • Standardize popular APIs (e.g., mapping)?
      • Drag&drop?
      • Data binding?
    • Wrapup - Jon Ferraiolo
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